Tuesday Conversations, S1E10 (PODCAST): White Evangelicals and White Supremacy, on The Holy Post with Skye Jethani
Listen in this week to one of the most in-depth theological conversations I've had about evangelical Christianity and white supremacy.
Happy Tuesday, everyone! This week I’m sharing a unique conversation I recently had with Skye Jethani at The Holy Post podcast. We dug deep on this one to explore the Christian theological roots of white supremacy. I had to dust off my M.Div. to keep up with Skye here—we covered hamartiology (sin), soteriology (salvation), Christology (the nature and work of Jesus as savior), ecclesiology (the church), and eschatology (the end times). Seeing the development of these doctrines in the historical context of white supremacy is both enlightening and disturbing. I hope you’ll listen below.
Speaking of putting a debate into its historical context, ICYMI, last Friday I wrote about the need to shut down the manufactured critical race theory (CRT) “debate.” Here’s a brief excerpt:
But something interesting—and hopeful—happens if you move away from the CRT jargon to the underlying conflict, which is at root about what public schools should teach our children about American history and, by extension, what understanding the next generation will have of the American story. Despite the well publicized scenes of wild-eyed soccer moms screaming at suburban school board meetings, among the broader public, even across partisan and religious lines, there is surprisingly broad common ground.
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And now on to the conversation. Skye’s interview with me begins at 44:15.
If you don’t know The Holy Post, I’d highly recommend you add them to your regular podcast rotation. A bit about the co-hosts:
Skye Jethani is an author, editor, speaker, consultant and pastor. He formerly occupied numerous roles at Christianity Today, a leading communications ministry launched by Billy Graham in 1956. He was also the Senior Producer of This Is Our City, a multi-year, multi-city project telling the stories of Christians working for the flourishing of their communities.
Phil Vischer made his first animated film when he was nine years old and by age fourteen was convinced he would be a filmmaker when he grew up. After a brief stint in Bible College, Phil struck out on his own, looking for a way to integrate his faith with his filmmaking. This quest led him to a tomato and a cucumber. Today, more than 65 million VeggieTales videos have been purchased and Phil’s faith-filled stories can be found in 1/3 of all American homes with young children.
To close us out, flagging a new book, The Bible Told Them So, by J. Russell Hawkins that has the historical receipts on the topics in this week’s podcast. From the book:
Why did southern white evangelical Christians resist the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s? Simply put, they believed the Bible told them so. These white Christians entered the battle certain that God was on their side…. Increasingly caught in the tension between their sincere belief that God desired segregation and their reluctance to give voice to such ideas for fear of being perceived as bigoted or intolerant, by the late 1960s southern white evangelicals embraced the rhetoric of colorblindness and protection of the family as measures to maintain both segregation and respectable social standing.
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