Tuesday Conversations, Episode 7 (VIDEO): White Supremacy and Local Churches, with Rev. Dr. Joel Hunter and Rev. Terence Gray

A roundtable conversation co-sponsored by AME's "The Christian Recorder" and AME Zion's "Star of Zion"

Last week was quite a ride. Wednesday morning, I published a deeply personal column at Time, reflecting on the ways that the “personal relationship with Jesus” motif of my Southern Baptist upbringing discipled me to be blind to racial injustice all around me. The column seemed to resonate with many, and it became one of the most viewed pages on the Time website last week. It also caught the attention of MSNBC’s Joy Reid, who invited me to appear on her show Wednesday night.

If you missed the column at Time or the appearance on MSNBC—or both—I include them (plus a bonus podcast of a longer discussion about #WhiteTooLong between Joy Reid and me) in my post from last Friday below.


This week’s Tuesday Conversation features a roundtable discussion between me, Rev. Dr. Joel Hunter, and Rev. Terence Gray on the topic of addressing white supremacy in local churches. Rev. Dr. Hunter is the president of the Parable Foundation and a retired UMC Pastor. Rev. Gray is the pastor of St. Mark AME Church in Orlando, Florida.

The event was co-sponsored by two amazing denominational publications, the AME’s The Christian Recorder (in print since 1848) and the AME Zion’s Star of Zion (in print since 1876).

Please click the graphic below to view the video. Enjoy—and please feel free to leave a comment!

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To take us out, a hearty shout out to my friend Eric Ward, Executive Director of the Western States Center, who was just awarded the 21st annual Civil Courage Prize on Friday, October 29. Each year, the Civil Courage Prize is presented to an individual or group who steadfastly resists evil at great personal risk. Past laureates have included individuals standing up against some of the world’s most repressive authoritarian regimes, organized crime syndicates, and violent religious and ethnic extremists.

This statement from the press release is a chilling reminder of where we are in America today: “This is the first time in the award’s history that an American has won the prize, revealing the dangerous proliferation of hate crimes and political violence by authoritarian and extremist movements in the United States.”

In addition to his courageous work to create a world where everyone can live, love, work, and worship free from bigotry and fear, Eric is a musician with a keen ear. I’m passing along a great social justice playlist he curated and shared with me. My favorite is one that brings me back home: “Mississippi It’s Time,” by Steve Earl. And don’t miss “Take Down Your Flag” by Eric himself.

If you like what you’re finding here, would you share the #WhiteTooLong substack with three friends today?

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