Tuesday Conversations, Episode 8 (VIDEO): Robin DiAngelo and Robert P. Jones: White Fragility and Why We've Been White Too Long
A Video Podcast with "Racial Heresy" hosts Fr. Jabriel Ballentine and Fr. Cayce Ramey
Hi, #WhiteTooLong readers, I have a double-header conversation to share with you today from a unique video podcast: Racial Heresy, a show where two Episcopal priests, one black, one white, challenge you to make racial reconciliation as much a part of your spiritual practice as prayer, bible study, and communion.
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As the primary Tuesday Conversations feature today, I’m sharing a wide-ranging four-way conversation I was privileged to have with Robin DiAngelo, author of the New York Times best-selling White Fragility, and Racial Heresy’s no-holds-barred hosts, Fr. Jabriel Ballentine and Fr. Cayce Ramey. Here’s the teaser from the show.
We’ve been White Too Long for way too long.
Our white church, our white faith, and our white identities are way too Fragile. What will it take to change the church? Robin DiAngelo, PhD, returns and joins Robert P. Jones, PhD, and the Racial Heresy Team to explore what it will take to move the needle and get white Christians to work against systemic racism in our institutions.
Will We Listen?
White Fragility and White Too Long have captured the imaginations of white Christians across denominations and geography – and still we have no stamina for the work of undoing the white supremacy that undergirds our faith! When will we listen? How can we face the reality of our own internalized white superiority and change the church?
Gonna Have to Sit with It for Awhile
We want to act. We want to do. We want to make it better but we can’t be effective advocates for change until we encounter the depths of our reality. We are fragile people who have used our power to create the strongest possible bulwark of systemic injustice. Our faith perpetuates the very sin we decry. We are not only complicit in violence, trauma, and death, the structures of our lives depend on it. We have to sit with that.
Watch, listen, and sit with us as we explore all of this and more…
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BONUS Second Feature :)
And if you’d like to view/hear a one-on-one extended conversation I had on Racial Heresy with Fr. Jabriel Ballentine and Fr. Cayce Ramey, click below.
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