Tuesday Conversations, S1E13 (VIDEO): How White Christian America Must Change

A Public Conversation featuring me and Dr. Leah Gunning Francis

Welcome to edition 13 of Tuesday Conversations. I’ve just returned last night from Indianapolis, where I was participating in the 2021 Spirit & Place Festival. Housed in the IU School of Liberal Arts at IUPUI, Spirit & Place is a the nation’s only independent festival dedicated to the arts, humanities, and religion.

This is only the third public event that I’ve done in person since the lock down. Even with masking and social distancing protocols in place, an indication that we’re not quite back to normal, it was nonetheless so nice to be in the room with other human beings and to be able to have the conversations before and after the event that you always miss on Zoom.

I want to say a huge “thank you” to Pam Blevins Hinkle, LaShawnda Crowe Storm, and Erin Kelley for their vision in shaping the festival and their hospitality and support during my stay.

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A Public Conversation with Dr. Leah Gunning Francis at the Spirit & Place Festival

I was honored to participate in the festival’s closing event, a “Public Conversation” featuring me and Dr. Leah Gunning Francis, Dean of Faculty at Christian Theological Seminary and author of Ferguson and Faith: Sparking Leadership and Awakening Community (2015).

We discussed how white Christian America must change if not only it, but the American experiment, hopes to survive.

The event was co-hosted by St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Indianapolis. Don’t miss Rev. John Denson Jr.’s opening remarks, in which he talks movingly about the church’s ongoing reckoning with its own troubled history and relationship with the local African American community.


If you haven’t read it, I highly recommend you check out Leah Gunning Francis’s new book, Faith After Ferguson: Resilient Leadership in Pursuit of Racial Justice.

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