Tuesday Conversations S2E6 [AUDIO]: Two Dialogues on White Christian Nationalism with Me and Paul Djupe, Hosted by Dwight Moody at The Meeting House
Two for One!
Dear #WhiteTooLong readers,
Thanks for your patience as we’ve had a lull in my Friday posts. I’ve been on writing retreat getting my new book off the ground (more in a future post about that), which is scheduled to publish fall 2023. Getting those first few words on the page, and pages in the first chapter, are always the most trying. I’m happy to report that I made enough progress to proclaim the book manuscript officially launched. And I plan to have a new missive back in your inboxes this Friday.
Before I get to this week’s conversation, I wanted to flag the emergence of yet another bill, this one from my home state of Mississippi, that aims to define teaching about the history of racism and its legacy today as “divisive”—and then prohibits the teaching of divisive topics. Here’s a summary from PRRI’s Morning Buzz newsletter.
Mississippi State Senate Passes Anti-CRT Bill
Molly Minta and Bobby Harrison for Mississippi Today reported last month that the state’s Senate Education Committee approved legislation that effectively bans instruction on critical race theory in K-12 public schools, as well as the state’s public universities and community colleges. The legislation is among several bills seeking to prohibit the teaching of CRT, which House Speaker Philip Gunn and Gov. Tate Reeves have both said seeks to “divide people by race.”
Matthew Steffey, who teaches constitutional law at Mississippi College, said the legislation would undercut academic freedom: “Universities are set up with promises of academic freedom as part of their accreditation process. It’s extremely problematic for state law to try to infringe on the existing contractual rights and commitment at the individual professor level and at the university level." Jarvis Dortch, executive director of the ACLU of Mississippi, said the bill is so vague that it is hard to tell how it might impact students and faculty at the university level beyond placing limits on speech. According to PRRI data from late 2021, one-third of Americans (34%) say they have heard nothing at all about critical race theory, 44% say they have heard a little, and only 19% say they have heard a lot.
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ICYMI, I dedicated my most recent Friday column to the debates around critical race theory, arguing that white Christians should embrace the discomfort that comes from learning the full truth about our own histories as sacred work.
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Two for One: Conversations at The Meeting House with Dwight A. Moody
I’m glad to share two conversation today, one with me, and one with my longtime friend and colleague Paul Djupe. Paul is an affiliated scholar with PRRI and former board member and general religion and politics co-conspirator. I think you’ll learn a lot from his take on what the best political science data tells us about white Christian nationalism.
The Meetinghouse is a media initiative hosted by Dr Dwight A Moody to promote conversation on religion and American life. Since March 5, 2020, The Meetinghouse has taken to the airwaves, hosted by Rejoice Radio in Brunswick and St. Simons Island, Georgia, on 94.7 FM and 97.5 FM. Beginning March 4, 2021, The Meetinghouse is also aired through the television ministry of St. Stephens Baptist Church of Louisville, Kentucky.
Conversation 1: Dwight Moody and Paul Djupe on White Christian Nationalism (Part 1)
Conversation 2: Dwight Moody and Robert P. Jones on White Christian Nationalism (Part 2)
More About Paul Djupe
Paul Djupe is a political scientist at Denison University directing the Data for Political Research minor and specializing in religion and politics, social networks, gender and politics, and political behavior. I am an affiliated scholar with Public Religion Research Institute and the editor of the Religious Engagement in Democratic Politics series with Temple University Press. I was the coeditor of Politics & Religion (2011-2016). And I blog primarily for religioninpublic.blog, but also for 538, the Monkey Cage, and others.